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Copyright 2002 Tony Falcetano

 
 ECC

 8 Oct 05 Engine Computer

I wanted to stay with EFI, but it was recommend that I replace the 1995 "W4H0"computer with an earlier "A9L" unit. The 94/95 computer does some strange things with the timing, such as backing it out during a shift, it also calculates the air/fuel ratio a little different. Its basically a performance dog!

Stay tuned, this ought to be a fun area of the site, I'll post the tunes, dyno runs and any thing else of interest.

16 Oct 05 Engine Computer Parts  
To keep the older A9L computer happy, several components have to be changed to 89-93, here's the list so far...
  • Computer
  • EFI injector wire harness
  • Computer wire harness
  • Throttle body and associated sensors
  • Distributor
  • Connections to main car harness
  • Oxygen Sensors (4 wire vice 3)
  • ACT, early years mount in the intake, later years in the air intake.

 

NOTE: The marking stripes on the wires are painted on so be careful with what you use to clean them.

The mess left above is both the 1995 and part of a 1990 computer and EFI harness I got from eBay. The '90 harness will have to be "adapted" to fit the 1995 main car harness. I suppose I could modify the '95 EFI harness to work, but decided to keep it and the W4H0 computer as a back up in case something went wrong. In fact, I plan on getting the car running using the newer W4H0 computer, then changing it out. The picture on the right shows all of the harnesses laid out while we tried to identify the various parts.
5 Nov 05 -- New Plan

Going with the Its A Snap harness and the '90 EFI harness.

W4H0 computer is history!

12 Mar 06 -- New ECC  
Here is the new remanufactured ECC, its Cardone part number 784352 , $96 and a $45 core charge. I also bought a GP Sorensen Idle Air Control Motor, # 77910023 $55 and two Bosh 3-wire Oxygen Sensors #13953, $42 each. All from Advance Auto.

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The Cardone ECC's have a 90 day warranty, while the Standard has a one year warranty,  but costs almost 50 percent more.

ID your injectors

Injector Colors

14 - gray
19 - yellowish-orange
24 - light blue
30 - red
36 - brown or dark blue
42 - lime green.

ID your EFI harness!

It turns out that the 1990 EFI harness is an odd ball. It does not match the other year harnesses, nor  does it match the new 94/95 harnesses. It drove me nuts trying to trace wires in it, it matched no references I had!

"Does it have a brown 8-pin plug and a green 8-pin plug at the opposite end? If so, it's a 91,92 or 93 EFI harness. If it has a grey and a black 8-pin plug next to each other and a green plug at the opposite end, then it's an 89 harness. If there is another grey 8-pin plug next to the green plug in addition to the 89 plugs shown above, it's a 90 harness." from someone on an internet forum

6 May 06 --  ECC Update
Some of the wire color codes in the 1990 harness did not match the codes in the EVTM I got from Helm. I wound up tracing many of the wires back to the 60 pin ECC connector to verify them. Just have to assume the actual pin layout matches the EVTM diagrams. There were also several "pass thru" wires in the EFI harness; they did not connect to the computer, but just routed circuits thru the harness to other parts of the original car.

19 June 06 --  Tweecer ECC Initial Settings
Initial A9L tune, click here to download it. Use at your own risk.

Click here to download the MAF transfer for a 75mm Pro-M TB calibrated for 24 lb injectors.

 

Cam Card for Comp Cams XFI Stroker Cam:  XFI 236HR-14

I'm waiting on my registration code for EEC Analyzer (EA)before I  adjust any more values

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Note these steps and the other info on this site is not meant to be a step by step guide, but rather suggestions at things to look at and things I have done.

This A9L tune removes the smog equipment, sets the injector slopes, MAF Transfer (my setup is 30 lb injectors with a 75MM Pro-M calibrated for 24 lb injectors) Injector breakpoint and Injector Offset vs. Battery Voltage ( I multiplied the stock values by 19/30 (.6333) to get these new values, where 19 is the stock injectors and 30 is the new ones) Engine displacement, Checksum base address = 0, sets the idle RPM and removes the speed limiters, and sets the Min and Max MAF Voltages.

Tip: Before starting the tuning process, ensure the engine mechanicals are 100% -- No vacuum leaks, set TPS voltage, etc.

Tip: Set a scalar value, then click Refresh on the Tweecer CalEdit Screen, it will adjust the values you enter to fit into the ECC's memory space.

Tip: Do NOT check the Update Only box, it will corrupt the tune. (bug in  v1.30A10, may be fixed in later version of CalEdit???)

Tip: SAVE YOUR WORK OFTEN!!!!!

Tip: Use cardboard or other material between the ECC and Tweecer box to keep it from twisting and losing contact.
Tip: Before installing the Tweecer clean the fingers (both sides) on the ECC connecter until they are a little shiny with a pencil eraser.

9 July 06 --  Another Tweecer Tune
This tune richens the idle 8%, it also enables the fan controls, changes the ISC closed loop RPM correction rate, and uses some MAF corrections from EA plus some other stuff, use at your own risk. Tip: if you are working away in CalEdit and all of a sudden, CalEdit refuses to change scalar values, either with the up/down control or by entering the values directly, it means the tune has become corrupt and is suspect. Recreate it manually from scratch (you saved the MAF transfers etc, right?)
Here's a way to clear the ECC KAM so new adaptive values will take effect sooner. Note you may want to use a momentary switch so the switch can not be left in the "ground" position.

Apparently the ECC KAM has another source of power when the key is on, so the switch may not act as a theft deterrent. Regardless it beats waiting 30 minutes or so for new fuel and air ECC settings to take effect,  use at your own risk.   Some folks upload a wrong tune to one of the Tweecer switch settings, then use that wrong tune to clear KAM.

14 July 06 --  Another Tweecer Tune
This is the best A9L 347 tune to date, the car idles fairly good at about 900 RPM, it still bucks a little, but not as bad as before.

 

Next step will be to adjust the table Injector Timing (FN1315) via EA, I understand it to be a one time adjustment, once set it should not need further tweaking.

 

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I scaled the functions Injector Offset vs. Battery Voltage (FN367), Cranking Fuel Pulse Width (FN348) and Fuel Table - Startup (FN1306) by .63333, which is 19/30 (19 old injectors, 30 new injectors) The Injector Breakpoint (FN389) was set to 1.05 based on earlier EA analysis.

I had some trouble with the ISC functions in EA, so I just set the scalar Throttle Body Airflow (ITHBMA) to .649902 by trial and error. I noticed that if this value is too large the car will run rich at start up and even flood.

 EA recommended 30.55 and 39.589 for the injector slopes, so I used those values.

 I also used EA to tweak and fit my original MAF curve. Some individuals suggest that the upper voltage should be 16, not 5. In that way the computer will continue to use the curve, but the scalar MAF Voltage Maximum (VMAMAX) contradicts that theory, since VMAMAX is supposedly the max value the computer will use in the airflow calculations. However, do set VMAMAX as close as possible to 5 without going over 5 in CalEdit.

 

4 Sep 06 Computer Problems??
Been chasing some issues with the tune and computer. The car started running badly, so we've been replacing one component at a time in an effort to find out what broke.
This is the remanufactured ECC, if you look closely, you can see where its been repaired. I suspect it went bad again, but there is really no way to test it. I have to get another ECC and put it in the car.

Turned out that there is nothing wrong with the computer.